NTs and especially ENTJs are depicted as evil

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Re: NTs and especially ENTJs are depicted as evil

Postby Alex » Sun Jan 24, 2010 7:40 pm

I question your ENTJness Iron Monkey....
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Re: NTs and especially ENTJs are depicted as evil

Postby Iron Mickie » Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:08 am

Why?
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Re: NTs and especially ENTJs are depicted as evil

Postby Iron Mickie » Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:30 am

I would still like to hear your reasoning as to why you believe that I am not an ENTJ..... BUTTTTT I just took 4 different tests to find out for sure.

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Re: NTs and especially ENTJs are depicted as evil

Postby JHBowden » Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:41 pm

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Re: NTs and especially ENTJs are depicted as evil

Postby ENTJWoman » Fri Jan 29, 2010 4:43 pm

Iron Mickie, I do so enjoy your thoughtful posts.
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Re: NTs and especially ENTJs are depicted as evil

Postby ENTJWoman » Fri Jan 29, 2010 4:48 pm

Iron Mickie wrote:I think that we are the least likely to be truly "evil." We are rational and vocal about our positions. We find out if we are wrong or right quicker than other types because of our specific traits:
-thinking out loud
-expressing our ideas openly
-talking to people with different perspectives
-being open to more reasonable/correct arguments

If someone has more evidence to back up their argument, we submit to that argument and adopt it (assuming it was actually the better argument); this includes ethical arguments (probably the hardest to argue for or against because they are based on wisdom/personal experience/life lessons). These ethical arguments are probably why we are depicted as evil; we are great at arguing, and if someone can't budge us to their ethical position they think we are evil or closed-minded (when in fact we are extremely open minded, we just need evidence/a better argument) for not agreeing that they could even possibly be right.

Also, in general we are more powerful than your run-of-the-mill human...
We ENTJs are the common enemy of the less powerful (emotionally, financially, intellectually, charismatically, etc. Obviously this doesn't apply to all, but I would say in general it is true).

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Re: NTs and especially ENTJs are depicted as evil

Postby Iron Mickie » Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:10 pm

Thanks ENTJwoman, I was starting to think this place was filled with F's...

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Re: NTs and especially ENTJs are depicted as evil

Postby luqmanux » Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:32 am

Thank you all for the thoughtful discussion ..

Iron Mickie , nice and thoughtful post, however, these posts can be more effective if you remove colorings .. overall, I like reading your posts.

The thing is that we, ENTJs quite stress our point, while if we just simply put it on, it might pass through more effectively ..

I'll bring some examples where ENTJs are considered evil and let's discuss about them .

The First Example is: Napoleon ..
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Re: NTs and especially ENTJs are depicted as evil

Postby Iron Mickie » Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:22 pm

Thanks for appreciating my efforts :) However, the colors stay. Research in synesthaesia accepts that adding color (or smell, feel, or taste) to words or letters makes them more effective and much more memorable. It's some wild stuff.
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Re: NTs and especially ENTJs are depicted as evil

Postby ComplexMango » Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:32 pm

Iron Mickie wrote:Thanks for appreciating my efforts :) However, the colors stay. Research in synesthaesia accepts that adding color (or smell, feel, or taste) to words or letters makes them more effective and much more memorable. It's some wild stuff.

While I can't bring myself to bust out the crayons myself, I have to admit that IM's posts are easier to read. :D
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